8.10.1. Falun Gong never makes any predictions that can be reasonably verified by non-believers (法轮功从不做任何非信徒可以合理验证的预言)
Exactly, just like any other Is Falun Gong a religion? 法轮功是一个宗教吗？, this is why Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) is agnostic and thinks Falun Gong metaphysics is bullshit.
Notably, Li Hongzhi (李洪志, LHZ, Falun Gong prophet) explicitly forbids display of magical powers gained by believers to non-believers: [flg-supernatural-powers] for "reasons". What a convenient coincidence, that prevents any verifiability!
Just like in Harry Potter, Falun Gong believers are part of the magical Hogwarts world which non-believers, The Muggles, cannot access.
The closest claims to observable Ciro has heard are:
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when pictures are taken in sacred events, notably Shen Yun Performing Arts (神韵艺术团, Falun Gong media), sometimes you can see magic Falun energy wheels in the pictures
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in the homes of some followers, small magic good plants-like fungi-like things have grown
Figure 124. Image of the magic good small plants that grew on a Falun Gong (法轮功, Qigong new religion/cult) believer’s home. They took a photo and it published on Minghui as a 2018 Chinese New Year good wish page to Li Hongzhi (李洪志, LHZ, Falun Gong prophet). They seem to identify those fungi as mini-udumbaras, which is just a fancy name that Buddhism scriptures use to refer to cluster fig flowers (优昙婆罗, amongst a billion other existing phonetic transliterations) emphasising their magic properties. Here’s a 2007 from The Epoch Times (明慧网, Falun Gong media): https://www.epochtimes.com/gb/7/10/7/n1859364.htm, and another one https://www.epochtimes.com/gb/9/5/3/n2514838.htm, and another one from 2011: https://www.epochtimes.com/gb/11/11/25/n3440323.htm. Only the most relevant news on that newspaper. Ciro could not find Canonical Falun Gong texts (法轮功的经典著作) mentions however. If any biologist reads this, for the love of God send me a Wikipedia page with the possible species. TODO transcribe the Chinese 吉林市大法弟子恭祝师新年快乐。（优昙婆罗花） 创世主救度众生YADA YADA。(Falun Gong practitioners from Jilin (吉林) wish The Master a happy (Chinese) New Year (udumbara Flower) The creator of the world saves all living things, …) This type of "congratulate the Master for New Year, congratulate the Master for his birthday etc. by sending photos to Minghui (明慧网, Falun Gong media) for selection is common practice in the Falun Gong community. Source.
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the sacred books of some believers had a closed lotus flower when they were bought, and after several years, the flower opened
but Ciro suspects they are not even canon, just believer oral culture.
Of course, like every other religion, reality happens to be is constructed in a way that prevents non-believers to verify anything with their eyes in a reproducible way.
Or a Jesus put it in Luke 4:
Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple.
"If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written:
"'He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'"
Jesus answered him, "It is also written: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'"
Ah good old prophets, their tricks haven’t changed a bit in 2 thousand years! This is why Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) follows instead the religion of science and freedom of speech, because those religions instead say:
Test your God. Test your God a billion times. And if your God proves wrong just once, disbelieve it.
The Pontius Pilate Scene from The Last Temptation of Christ (1988) comes to mind, quotes:
Pontius: It’s also said that you do miracles? Is this good magic or bad magic? Can we have some sort of demonstration?
Jesus: No, I’m not a trained animal, I’m not a magician.
Pontius: Well, that’s disappointing. This means that you are just another Jewish politician.
and:
Pontius: It’s one way to change the way that people live, but you want to change the way that they think and that they feel.
Jesus: All I’m saying is the change will happen with love. Not with killing.
Pontius: Either way it’s dangerous. It’s against Rome. It’s against the way the world is. In killing or loving, it’s all the same. It simply doesn’t matter how you want to change things, we don’t want them changed.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pXGsio9H1xs The Last Temptation of Christ (1988) - Pontius Pilate Scene (5/10) | Movieclips.
Futurama also has an interesting take:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObbVO3A3BvA Bender meets God in Futurama S03E20 "Godfellas". In their talk, they comment on how "if as God you give them everything, they will grow dependent on you, and if you give them nothing, they will despise you". And so the best approach as a God might be "to influence things as if you weren’t there".
Exactly, just like any other Is Falun Gong a religion? 法轮功是一个宗教吗？, this is why Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) is agnostic and thinks Falun Gong metaphysics is bullshit.
Notably, Li Hongzhi (李洪志, LHZ, Falun Gong prophet) explicitly forbids display of magical powers gained by believers to non-believers: [flg-supernatural-powers] for "reasons". What a convenient coincidence, that prevents any verifiability!
Just like in Harry Potter, Falun Gong believers are part of the magical Hogwarts world which non-believers, The Muggles, cannot access.
The closest claims to observable Ciro has heard are:
-
when pictures are taken in sacred events, notably Shen Yun Performing Arts (神韵艺术团, Falun Gong media), sometimes you can see magic Falun energy wheels in the pictures
-
in the homes of some followers, small magic good plants-like fungi-like things have grown
Figure 124. Image of the magic good small plants that grew on a Falun Gong (法轮功, Qigong new religion/cult) believer’s home. They took a photo and it published on Minghui as a 2018 Chinese New Year good wish page to Li Hongzhi (李洪志, LHZ, Falun Gong prophet). They seem to identify those fungi as mini-udumbaras, which is just a fancy name that Buddhism scriptures use to refer to cluster fig flowers (优昙婆罗, amongst a billion other existing phonetic transliterations) emphasising their magic properties. Here’s a 2007 from The Epoch Times (明慧网, Falun Gong media): https://www.epochtimes.com/gb/7/10/7/n1859364.htm, and another one https://www.epochtimes.com/gb/9/5/3/n2514838.htm, and another one from 2011: https://www.epochtimes.com/gb/11/11/25/n3440323.htm. Only the most relevant news on that newspaper. Ciro could not find Canonical Falun Gong texts (法轮功的经典著作) mentions however. If any biologist reads this, for the love of God send me a Wikipedia page with the possible species. TODO transcribe the Chinese 吉林市大法弟子恭祝师新年快乐。（优昙婆罗花） 创世主救度众生YADA YADA。(Falun Gong practitioners from Jilin (吉林) wish The Master a happy (Chinese) New Year (udumbara Flower) The creator of the world saves all living things, …) This type of "congratulate the Master for New Year, congratulate the Master for his birthday etc. by sending photos to Minghui (明慧网, Falun Gong media) for selection is common practice in the Falun Gong community. Source. -
the sacred books of some believers had a closed lotus flower when they were bought, and after several years, the flower opened
but Ciro suspects they are not even canon, just believer oral culture.
Of course, like every other religion, reality happens to be is constructed in a way that prevents non-believers to verify anything with their eyes in a reproducible way.
Or a Jesus put it in Luke 4:
Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple.
"If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written:
"'He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'"
Jesus answered him, "It is also written: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'"
Ah good old prophets, their tricks haven’t changed a bit in 2 thousand years! This is why Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) follows instead the religion of science and freedom of speech, because those religions instead say:
Test your God. Test your God a billion times. And if your God proves wrong just once, disbelieve it.
The Pontius Pilate Scene from The Last Temptation of Christ (1988) comes to mind, quotes:
Pontius: It’s also said that you do miracles? Is this good magic or bad magic? Can we have some sort of demonstration?
Jesus: No, I’m not a trained animal, I’m not a magician.
Pontius: Well, that’s disappointing. This means that you are just another Jewish politician.
and:
Pontius: It’s one way to change the way that people live, but you want to change the way that they think and that they feel.
Jesus: All I’m saying is the change will happen with love. Not with killing.
Pontius: Either way it’s dangerous. It’s against Rome. It’s against the way the world is. In killing or loving, it’s all the same. It simply doesn’t matter how you want to change things, we don’t want them changed.
Futurama also has an interesting take: