China Dictatorship (中国独裁统治)

26.1.4.5. CCP apologists (中共辩护士)

If it is ever proven that those people are directly supported by the Chinese government, their nationalities should be revoked, it is very simple.

Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) feels that it is unlikely however that the CCP directly pays those apologists, as that would be too risky for both parties.

Rather, Ciro believes that they are either:

saying that the CCP is good to get more views and ad revenue from CCP supporters that want to hear it from a white (most cases)
even bigger complete idiots who actually believe China is good (the minority)

Then, when they reach a certain size, the CCP can support them indirectly, notably by featuring them in Chinese government media (中国政府媒体) such as China Global Television Network (CGTN, 中国环球电视网, CCP media), e.g. as happened Nathan Rich (Hotpot King, 火锅大王) at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRK1XDlZkng, in order to boost their views and ad revenue.

For this reason, it is very hard to stop them without quenching freedom of expression.

Ciro’s currently recommended approach is the following: if a prominent pro-CCP YouTubber never ever criticized the CCP, and it gets featured in CCP media, treat that channel exactly as you should treat CCP media, which is by adding a notice at the bottom along the lines of:

This account supports the Chinese Government, which is a fucking murderous dictatorship.

followed by a funny meme image that is forbidden in China, e.g. Xi Jinping memes (习近平模因).

It would be amazing if we could demonetize the apologist channels only for views coming from Chinese citizens, and it would be possible without completely destroying privacy by using decentralized ring signatures as mentioned at: https://cirosantilli.com/electronic-voting.

It is also interesting to note that many of them don’t speak a word of Chinese, or very basic Chinese. It is fine when you say "the CCP is great" as a foreigner, but if you say "the CCP is bad", then Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (外国人不应该干预中国政治).

伏拉夫 (fu2 la1 fu1): Russian, says I love China in ridiculously enthusiastic tone which is despised even by the Chinese, samples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMVRdeUrk-8

Video by LeLe Farley (乐乐法利) making fun of him and Nathan Rich (Hotpot King, 火锅大王): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSM2_HgXKsM

It does not feel like he is paid by the Chinese government, but rather that he is just trying to get some views.

https://www.zhihu.com/question/334923127 如何评价俄罗斯籍中国网红伏拉夫？ on Zhihu (知乎, censored Quora clone, 审查 Quora 克隆) with 17k likes as of 2020-06.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Zeman Carrie Lam supporter
"Living in China" by Jason Lightfoot: https://www.youtube.com/user/JasonLightfoot Sample video:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mjik6q7FFo "The CCP is Wonderful! Thank you China not a government shill 谢谢你中国"
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SftsZXlIKM "British vlogger: The life of Uygurs and other minorities in China" reposted by China Global Television Network (CGTN, 中国环球电视网, CCP media) (2021)
Andy Boreham
- from New Zeland
- https://twitter.com/AndyBxxx
- https://www.shine.cn/andyboreham/
- https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xqKJMchxGbI Xinjiang (新疆) denial. He’s deep.

TODO decide:

the JaYoe Nation https://www.youtube.com/c/JaYoeNation Sample video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smnVeGR15GI "Chinese Government Officials Corrupted My Videos! | JaYoe Conversation"
Mexicanos en China https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgQYtqm1xB2uuNZaOniCH0Q Sample video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a71fDVMBwP8 "Is the CHINESE GOVERNMENT PAYING US to Make Videos: Our Trip to Shaanxi // 中国政府是否付钱给我们制作视频" https://youtu.be/a71fDVMBwP8?t=188 says they were sponsored for the video.
Gweilo60’s Channel: https://www.youtube.com/gweilo60
Eric Favreliere: https://www.instagram.com/ericfavreliere/
Laoma Chris (Chris Max, 口语老炮儿马思瑞). No ultra-pro CCP content, but has some anti-US content, and significant business interest in China. Large channel, 700k+ subscribers as of April 2021:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQQ-9x5c6nM Why Is Police Brutality So Common in the US? (2020)

Non-political (as far as we can tell) channels of interest:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCISrVZmDM4x-Rq9mmNUw7Zw Blondie in China food and travel. Speaks Chinese. TODO name.
https://www.youtube.com/c/TravelinChina The China Traveller. Real name: Stuart Wiggin (司徒). British, studied in Oxford, speaks Chinese. Avoids ultra-sensitive topics like Xinjiang (新疆) and Censorship (审查), and covers positive rosy (and to some extent real) improvements in China mostly, in addition to neutral food/travel. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stuartwiggin (archive). Worked for China Radio International (CRI, 中国国际广播电台, CCP media) from 2012 to 2017 and for Netease (网易, online gaming company) since 2016. Other media: https://twitter.com/wiginchina Sample videos:
- https://youtu.be/8221d7F8Uzc?t=145: watermarked crienglish.com "到底是不是习近平？Is that a famous Asian world leader?", but takes Xi Jinping (习近平, 2012-∞, Heil卐!) lightly by showing a bad Xi Jinping lookalike
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unDUEoMqYwk "I Train with the Troops at Tiananmen Square". Participates in a flag raising ceremony.
https://www.youtube.com/c/KevininShanghai Kevin in Shanghai. Mostly language and cultural differences.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrcDPAshreK6gXlDIrDgYjQ Katherine’s Journey to the East 阳离子东游记
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnHqBIN0sZY "China is a fascinating country that is often portrayed by western media in an overly negative light. China isn’t perfect, but what country is? There’s much more to China than the negative news and stereotypes, and there are many reasons why I chose to live here - these are a few of the top ones."

Bibliography:

https://wokeglobaltimes.com/tankies-and-despair tankies, despair, and politics: a case study by the woke global times (2020) on The woke global times
https://www.zhihu.com/question/447085848 如何判断一个老外夸中国，是发自真心，还是财富密码？ (How to judge whether a foreigner praises China from his sincerity or the code of wealth? is about) on Zhihu (知乎, censored Quora clone, 审查 Quora 克隆)

Discussion/lists: Quora:

https://www.quora.com/Why-does-there-seem-to-be-an-upsurge-in-CCP-apologists-and-apologism/answer/Ciro-Santilli on Quora
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=370&v=AvN5X_pOFio "Expat YouTubers attacked for pro-China views" by China Global Television Network (CGTN, 中国环球电视网, CCP media) (2021). TODO investigate all of those shown at the given timestamp.
- Raz Gal-Or (高佑思, Ychina, Y-Platform, 歪果仁研究协会)
- Leo (Germany) TODo
- Brian (Argentina)
- Alistair Bayley (UK/Australia)
- Vlad (Russia). Russia (俄罗斯) is not part of the West.
- Thomas (Germany)
- Rachele (Italy)
- Jason Lightfoot (UK)
- Jared (Canada)
- Lila (US). This is Lila Kidson, Raz Gal-Or (高佑思, Ychina, Y-Platform, 歪果仁研究协会)'s girl
https://medium.com/swlh/how-china-is-influencing-youtubers-into-posting-state-propaganda-db72acf18dfa "EXCLUSIVE: How China is Influencing YouTubers into Posting State Propaganda" mentions https://youtu.be/2mQ8plzWl9g?t=520 "They tried to get me to post Chinese propaganda" by J.J. McCullough (2019) was approached to publish an anti-Shen Yun Performing Arts (神韵艺术团, Falun Gong media) video by what was likely a Chinese agent.

Reddit threads:

https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/lgkp8t/british_youtubers_paid_by_the_cpp/ about Jason Lightfoot

Figure 247. Elbow-to-elbow against the common enemy! French division of the Waffen SS (Coude a coude contre l’ennemi commun! Division française de la Waffen SS) 1942 propaganda poster for the French SS division, formally known as 33rd Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS Charlemagne. Mentioned at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJpWB5hi3hQ French SS - Berlin 1945 by Mark Felton Productions (2020). Source.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HGgzK2yVX4 The LAST White Monkey Jobs in China by laowhy86 (2022). An overview of CCP apologists on YouTube.